Berliner Wirtschaftssenatorin

Warum von Obernitz selbstbewusste Männer schätzt

| Lesedauer: 11 Minuten
Christine Richter und Gilbert Schomaker

Foto: Franka Bruns

Nach dem Rücktritt des Aufsichtsratschef von Berlin Partner muss sich Sybille von Obernitz wegen ihres Führungsstils heftiger Kritik stellen. Im Interview mit Morgenpost Online spricht die Wirtschaftssenatorin über ihren Führungsstil und Frauen im Wirtschaftsleben.

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