Interreligiöser Dialog

Rabbi und Imam diskutieren mit Schülern über Antisemitismus

An einem Neuköllner Gymnasium wollen ein Rabbiner und ein Imam die Schüler zum Nachdenken bringen. Nicht jedes Thema kommt zur Sprache.

Berke (13, l.), Aaliyah (14) und Randa (14, r.) im Gespräch mit dem Rabbiner Elias Dray (M.) und Imam Ender Cetin

Berke (13, l.), Aaliyah (14) und Randa (14, r.) im Gespräch mit dem Rabbiner Elias Dray (M.) und Imam Ender Cetin

Foto: Jörg Krauthöfer

Neukölln. „Ey, du Jude!“ Ja, diesen Ausspruch würde er in seinem Umfeld schon mal hören, sagt Hussein. Die Leute, die so redeten, würden aber nur einen Spaß machen wollen. Meistens würde er solche Sprüche daher einfach ignorieren. Hier rein, da raus, bloß nicht zu ernst nehmen, findet Hussein. Dann hält der 14-Jährige kurz inne und sagt: „Aber eigentlich ist das ja kein Spaß.“

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Einen Juden hatten viele Schüler noch nie gesehen

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Was Diskriminierung bedeutet, wissen die Kinder

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=tuspoh?Nfis {vn Uifnb;=0tuspoh?

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