Interview

So streitet die Berliner CDU über die "Ehe für alle"

| Lesedauer: 10 Minuten
Andreas Abel; Gilbert Schomaker
Pro und Kontra: Generalsekretär Kai Wegner diskutiert mit der stellvertretenden Fraktionschefin im Abgeordnetenhaus, Cornelia Seibeld, über die Öffnung der Ehe für Homosexuelle

Pro und Kontra: Generalsekretär Kai Wegner diskutiert mit der stellvertretenden Fraktionschefin im Abgeordnetenhaus, Cornelia Seibeld, über die Öffnung der Ehe für Homosexuelle

Foto: Reto Klar

Die CDU-Mitglieder stimmen über die Homo-Ehe ab. Der liberale Kai Wegner und die konservativ Cornelia Seibeld im Gespräch.

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