Harvard-Forscher

"Europas Politiker reden viel und tun nichts"

Starökonom Alberto Alesina fordert straffe Reformen für Italien. Das schlechte Krisenmanagement mache die nervösen Märkte verrückt, sagte der Havard-Professor.

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Morgenpost Online: Herr Alesina, wird Europa ein Rettungspaket für Italien schnüren müssen?

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