Neuer Intendant

Peymann wünscht sich für das BE einen politischen Kopf

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Stefan Kirschner und Matthias Wulff

Foto: Reto Klar

Claus Peymann, der Intendant des Berliner Ensembles, verlässt das Haus 2016. Wie er sich seinen Nachfolger vorstellt, welche seiner Träume geplatzt sind und was er zum Dauerkonflikt mit Rolf Hochhuth sagt.

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