Interview

So schätzt Olaf Scholz die Gefahr eines Atomkriegs ein

| Lesedauer: 13 Minuten
J. Dörner, J. Gaugele, L. Haider, J. Quoos und S. Vannier
Das ist die aktuelle Bundesregierung

Das ist die aktuelle Bundesregierung

Seit 2021 besteht die Bundesregierung aus diesen 17 gewählten Politikern und Politikerinnen.

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Wie der Kanzler über Gespräche mit Wladimir Putin denkt und was Olaf Scholz für 2023 erwartet, lesen Sie im großen Interview.

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