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Nato-Chef Stoltenberg: „EU kann Europa nicht verteidigen“

Nato-Generalsekretär Jens Stoltenberg über die neue US-Präsidentschaft, die Corona-Krise und einen möglichen Abzug aus Afghanistan.

„Wir müssen in der Lage sein, Verteidigungsausgaben zu erhöhen, wenn die Spannungen wieder zunehmen“, sagt Nato-Generalsekretär Jens Stoltenberg.

„Wir müssen in der Lage sein, Verteidigungsausgaben zu erhöhen, wenn die Spannungen wieder zunehmen“, sagt Nato-Generalsekretär Jens Stoltenberg.

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Brüssel.  Die Corona-Krise darf für die Nato keine Sicherheitskrise werden, warnt Nato-Generalsekretär Jens Stoltenberg . Im Interview beschreibt der 61-jährige Norweger, was die Allianz von Joe Biden erwarten kann und welches Risiko die Europäer beachten müssen.

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