Interview

Karliczek: Gewohnter Schulunterricht erst mit Corona-Impfung

Bildungsministerin Anja Karliczek über Schulen im Corona-Ausnahmezustand – und warum die Herstellung eines Impfstoffs so schwierig ist.

„Erst wenn große Bevölkerungsgruppen geimpft sind, werden wir zum gewohnten Unterricht zurückkehren“, sagt Bildungsministerin Anja Karliczek.

„Erst wenn große Bevölkerungsgruppen geimpft sind, werden wir zum gewohnten Unterricht zurückkehren“, sagt Bildungsministerin Anja Karliczek.

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Berlin. Das Virus wird uns noch viele Überraschungen bereiten, glaubt Anja Karliczek, die in der Bundesregierung für Bildung und Forschung zuständig ist. Worauf sich die Deutschen einstellen müssen, sagt die CDU-Politikerin im Interview.

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