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Julia von Heinz: „Die Antifa kann man nicht verbieten“

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Peter Zander
Viele Jahre musste Julia von Heinz um ihren Film kämpfen. Der ist dabei immer aktueller geworden.

Viele Jahre musste Julia von Heinz um ihren Film kämpfen. Der ist dabei immer aktueller geworden.

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Julia von Heinz über ihren kämpferischen Film „Und morgen die ganze Welt“, mit dem sie ihre eigene Antifa-Vergangenheit rekapituliert.

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