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Was Günter Grass wirklich über den Holocaust sagte

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Tom Segev

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Unlängst machten Grass-Äußerungen die Runde, nach denen er den NS-Völkermord mit deutschen Gefangenen der Sowjets verglichen haben soll. Eine Klarstellung.

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"Gut, Sie wiederzusehen"

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Eine lebensnotwendige Botschaft

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Gibt es da noch andere Geheimnisse

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Seit dem 60. Jahrestag von Dresden

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"Es gab 14 Millionen Flüchtlinge in Deutschland"

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Der Mann von der Straße

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Wenn Selbstmitleid die Erinnerung überwältigt

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