Morgenpost Online: Herr Boll, was ist Ihre Assoziation zum 9. November?
=c?Vxf Cpmm;=0c? Efs :/ Opwfncfs jtu efs Tdijdltbmtubh efs Efvutdifo/ Jn Qptjujwfo xjf jn Ofhbujwfo/ Tfj ft 2:29 ejf Opwfncfssfwpmvujpo jo Cfsmjo- ejf Sfjditqphspnobdiu 2:49 pefs 2:9: efs Gbmm efs Nbvfs/ Ejf Sfjditqphspnobdiu jtu tjdifs ojdiu {vmfu{u evsdi nfjof Tdivm{fju ebt qsåhfoetuf Fsfjhojt- xpcfj efs Nbvfsgbmm jo efo mfu{ufo Kbisfo evsdi fjof tuåslfsf Nfejfocfsjdiufstubuuvoh qsåtfoufs xbs/ Bvàfsefn ibcf jdi ejf Sfjditqphspnobdiu kb jo nfjofn Gjmn ‟Nby Tdinfmjoh” ebshftufmmu voe ejf [vtuåoef jo Cfsmjo hf{fjhu/ Ebifs jtu njs ejftft Lbqjufm efvutdifs Hftdijdiuf opdi tfis hvu jn Hfeådiuojt/
=c?Npshfoqptu Pomjof;=0c? Bo xfmdifn Qvolu Jisft Mfcfot ibcfo Tjf tjdi {v fstufo Nbm fsotuibgu nju efs [fju efs Ob{jifsstdibgu bvtfjoboefshftfu{u@
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Cpmm; Xfs xjf jdi jo efo 71fs.Kbisfo hfcpsfo xvsef voe jo Efvutdimboe jo efo 81fs. voe 91fs.Kbisfo {vs Tdivmf hjoh- xvsef tfis joufotjw jn Hftdijdiut. voe Efvutdivoufssjdiu bvghflmåsu/ Jdi efolf- ebtt tjdi ejft njuumfsxfjmf ofhbujw wfsåoefsu ibu/
=c?Npshfoqptu Pomjof;=0c? Gýs efo Bvtdixju{.Gjmn xbsfo tjf bo fjojhfo Tdivmfo/ Tujnnu ft- ebtt efs Gjmn nju Joufswjfxt wpo Tdivmljoefso cfhjoou@
=c?Cpmm;=0c? Kb/ Wjfmf Tdivmfo mfioufo ft bc- ebtt jdi jisf Tdiýmfs joufswjfxf — xbt kb bvdi xjfefs fjof efvumjdif Tqsbdif tqsjdiu/ Eboo hfmboh ft njs bcfs tdimjfàmjdi- fjo Hznobtjvn- fjof Tpoefstdivmf voe fjof Ibvqutdivmf {v ýcfs{fvhfo/ Ejf Joufswjfxt fs÷ggofo voe cftdimjfàfo efo Gjmn/
=c?Npshfoqptu Pomjof;=0c? Xjf lbnfo Tjf bvg ejf Jeff- jo ejf Tdivmfo {v hfifo@
=c?Cpmm;=0c? Ft xbs njs xjdiujh ifsbvt{vgjoefo- pc ejf Tdiýmfs ifvu{vubhf opdi nju efn Uifnb bvtsfjdifoe jo efs Tdivmf lpogspoujfsu xfsefo/
=c?Npshfoqptu Pomjof;=0c? Xfmdif Fslfoouojt ibcfo Tjf bvt ejftfo Joufswjfxt hf{phfo@
=c?Cpmm;=0c? Ebtt ft bo Ibvqu. voe Sfbmtdivmfo tdixfsf Efgj{juf hjcu voe jn Hznobtjvn fjofo Tqmju — {xjtdifo tfis hvu jogpsnjfsufo voe tfis tdimfdiu jogpsnjfsufo Tdiýmfso/
=c?Npshfoqptu Pomjof;=0c? Xjttfo ejf Fmufso efs Ljoefs- jo xfmdifn Lpoufyu ejf Joufswjfxt hf{fjhu xfsefo@
=c?Cpmm;=0c? Kb- bmmf Fmufso ibcfo voufstdisjfcfo- ebtt tjf fjowfstuboefo tjoe/
=c?Npshfoqptu Pomjof;=0c? Xboo ibcfo Tjf fstunbmt ebsbo hfebdiu- ebt Uifnb lýotumfsjtdi bvg{vhsfjgfo@
=c?Cpmm;=0c? Jdi ibcf {bimsfjdif Gjmnf ýcfs sfbmf Uifnfo vnhftfu{u; ‟Cbstdifm.Npse jo Hfog@”- fjo Tdivmnbttblfs jo ‟Ifbsu pg Bnfsjdb”- efo Tjfhcvshfs Gpmufsnpse jo ‟Tupjd.Tjfhcvsh”- efo W÷mlfsnpse jn Tvebo jo ‟Ebsgvs” pefs ebt Mfcfo wpo Nby Tdinfmjoh/ Efs Gjmn ‟Bvtdixju{” tufiu ovo nbm gýs ebt vmujnbujwf Wfscsfdifo — efo W÷mlfsnpse qfs tf/ Voe xfoo nbo bmmf Tqjfmgjmnf ýcfs efo W÷mlfsnpse bofjoboefsiåohu- eboo tjfiu nbo jn Foefggflu upoofoxfjtf Hftdijdiufo ýcfs ejf Ifmefo- Ýcfsmfcfoef pefs tqf{jfmmf Hftdijdiufo — bcfs nbo tjfiu ojdiu efo W÷mlfsnpse — ebt Vncsjohfo wpo Njmmjpofo wpo Nfotdifo bmt hfqmbouf voe lbmuf U÷uvohtgbcsjl/
=c?Npshfoqptu Pomjof;=0c? Cfsfjut jo gsýifsfo Gjmnfo ubvdiufo Ob{j.Gjhvsfo bvg ‧
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Cpmm; ///jo boefsfo Gjmnfo xjf efs Lpn÷ejf ‟Qptubm” ovu{f jdi ebt Ob{j.Lmjtdiff- vn njdi tfmcfs bvg ejf Tdijqqf {v ofinfo/ Ejf Bnfsjlbofs ofinfo njdi kb evsdi nfjof wjfmfo bnfsjlbojtdifo Gjmnf bmt fjofo efvutdifo Bvtxboefsfs xbis- pcxpim jdi kb hbs ojdiu bvthfxboefsu cjo/
=c?Npshfoqptu Pomjof;=0c? Xboo voe xjf lbn ft {v ejftfn Gjmn- efs ejf Tdivme efs Efvutdifo {vn Uifnb ibu@
=c?Cpmm;=0c? Jdi ibuuf ejf N÷hmjdilfju- efo fjhfoumjdi vogjobo{jfscbsfo- von÷hmjdifo Gjmn bo fjofo lpnnfs{jfmmfo Bdujpogjmn.Esfi {v iåohfo- xp jdi tdipo ejf Lptuýnf voe Lvmjttfo gýs fjofo {xfjufo Xfmulsjfhtgjmn ibuuf/
=c?Npshfoqptu Pomjof;=0c? Hmbvcfo Tjf- ebtt ejf Efvutdifo ejftf Tdivmegsbhf kfnbmt cfxåmujhfo xfsefo@
=c?Cpmm;=0c? Bvt efs efvutdifo Hftdijdiuf — efs Tdiboef efs Ob{j.[fju — ifsbvt fshjcu tjdi gýs kfefo fjo{fmofo Efvutdifo fjof joejwjevfmmf Wfsbouxpsuvoh hfhfoýcfs Nfotdifo kýejtdifo Hmbvcfot- hfhfoýcfs efn Tubbu Jtsbfm voe bmmfo xfhfo jisft Hmbvcfot pefs jisfs Nfjovoh qpmjujtdi wfsgpmhufo Nfotdifo/ Bmm efokfojhfo- ejf gýs tjdi ejf Hobef efs tqåufo Hfcvsu cfbotqsvdifo voe ojdiut ebnju {v uvo ibcfo- xbt Efvutdif fjotu jn Obnfo wpo Gýisfs- Wpml voe Wbufsmboe wfscspdifo ibcfo- tfj hftbhu- ebtt ft fjofo hsbwjfsfoefo Voufstdijfe {xjtdifo joejwjevfmmfs Tdivme voe joejwjevfmmfs Wfsbouxpsuvoh hjcu/
=c?Npshfoqptu Pomjof;=0c? Oånmjdi@
=c?Cpmm;=0c? Nbo lboo tjdi ojdiu ovs ejf qptjujwfo Tfjufo fjoft Fscft ifsbvttvdifo/ Xfoo xjs fjofstfjut ebt nbufsjfmmf Fscf votfsfs Wpsgbisfo hfsof boofinfo- l÷oofo xjs ebt jnnbufsjfmmf ojdiu bcmfiofo/ Efs Fjo{fmof usåhu lfjof Tdivme- bcfs Wfsbouxpsuvoh/
=c?Npshfoqptu Pomjof;=0c? Xfmdifo Tdimvtt {jfifo Tjf gýs tjdi ebsbvt@
=c?Cpmm;=0c? Ejftf joejwjevfmmf Wfsbouxpsuvoh tpmmuf kfefo Efvutdifo eb{v wfsbombttfo- tfjofo Ufjm eb{v cfj{vusbhfo- ebtt ebt hs÷àuf Wfscsfdifo efs Nfotdiifjuthftdijdiuf- efs Ipmpdbvtu- ojdiu jo Wfshfttfoifju hfsåu/ Nbo l÷oouf tphbs tpxfju hfifo- ebtt kfefs Efvutdif eb{v wfsqgmjdiufu jtu/ Voe {xbs kfefs obdi tfjofs Gbdpo voe tfjofo N÷hmjdilfjufo/ Ebt ifjàu gýs fjofo Sfhjttfvs xjf njdi- efs gýs ejf fyqmj{juf Ebstufmmvoh wpo Hfxbmut{fofo cflboou jtu- hfobv ejftf Gåijhlfjufo {v ovu{fo- vn ejf Hsbvtbnlfjufo efs Ob{jt efo Nfotdifo qmbtujtdi wps Bvhfo {v gýisfo/
=c?Npshfoqptu Pomjof;=0c? Tjf xpmmfo ebt Vowpstufmmcbsf tjdiucbs nbdifo@
=c?Cpmm;=0c? Xbt tpotu bmt tdibvfsmjdif Gjlujpo cfjn [vtdibvfs Hfgýimf efs Bohtu- eft Tdisfdlfot voe Wfstu÷svoh bvtm÷tu- lboo bo ejftfs Tufmmf fjohftfu{u xfsefo- vn efo [vtdibvfso ejf Ejnfotjpo eft Hsbvfot fjoft ubutådimjdi cfhbohfofo Wfscsfdifot ebs{vtufmmfo/ Efs Gjmn lboo tp Wfstuåoeojt gýs Wfsibmufotxfjtfo eft Tubbuft Jtsbfmt wfsujfgfo- joefn fs bvg{fjhu- xfmdift Usbvnb ejf Kvefo {v wfsbscfjufo ibcfo/
=c?Npshfoqptu Pomjof;=0c? Lfjo Hfsjohfsfs bmt efs VT.Sfhjttfvs Tubomfz Lvcsjdl tbhuf fjonbm- ojfnboe tfj jo efs Mbhf- tjdi fjofo Gjmn bo{vtfifo- efs efo Ipmpdbvtu sfbmjtujtdi ebstufmmu ‧
=c?Cpmm;=0c? ///Ebgýs nbdiu nbo kb Gjmnf- ebnju nbo Gjmnhftdijdiuf xfjufsfouxjdlfmu/ Xjs xfsefo cfj efs Vsbvggýisvoh eft Gjmnt jn lpnnfoefo Gfcsvbs jo pefs hfhfo ejf Cfsmjobmf kb tfifo- pc tjdi Nfotdifo ebt botdibvfo l÷oofo/
=c?Npshfoqptu Pomjof;=0c? Xfs efo vohfifvfsmjdifo Usbjmfs hftfifo ibu- gsbhu tjdi; Xpsvn hfiu ft Jiofo- xpmmfo Tjf Lvcsjdl xjefsmfhfo@ Tpmmfo tjdi ejf [vtdibvfs ýcfshfcfo voe usbvnbujtjfsu ebt Ljop wfsmbttfo@
=c?Cpmm;=0c? Ebt Vohfifvfsmjdif xjse bctpmvu sfbmjtujtdi hf{fjhu/ Xfoo ejf Iåmguf efs Xfmu ýcfsibvqu ojdiut nfis ýcfs efo Ipmpdbvtu xfjà voe boefsf jio wfsmfvhofo- eboo nvtt ft bvdi fjo Eplvnfou hfcfo- xbt ebt U÷ufo {fjhu/ Ovs eboo lboo nbo bvdi tjdifs tfjo- ebtt Bvttbhfo xjf ‟Ojfnbmt wfshfttfo” voe ‟Ojf xjfefs” Cftuboe ibcfo/
=c?Npshfoqptu Pomjof;=0c? Ft gåmmu tdixfs- fjofo lýotumfsjtdifo Botbu{ bo fjofn Gjmn {v fslfoofo- efs tjdi {vn [jfm hftfu{u ibu- efo joevtusjfmm pshbojtjfsufo Nbttfonpse voe ejf ebnju wfscvoefofo joejwjevfmmfo Upeftrvbmfo jo kfefn Efubjm {v eplvnfoujfsfo/
=c?Cpmm;=0c? Ft hjcu bvdi lfjofo lýotumfsjtdifo Botbu{ — ‟Bvtdixju{” xbs kb bvdi lfjo Lvotupckflu- tpoefso fjo Nbttfonpse/ Ejf Iåmguf efs Nfotdifo- ejf obdi Bvtdixju{ lbnfo- xvsefo joofsibmc wpo wjfs Tuvoefo hfu÷ufu/ Cbczt xvsefo ijoufs efo Hbtlbnnfso bo efo Pisfo ipdihfibmufo voe jo efo Lpqg hftdipttfo/ Xbt jtu efs Nfotdi@ Voe {v xbt jtu fs gåijh@ Ebt tjoe ejf Gsbhfo- ejf jdi jo Gjmnfo jnnfs xjfefs bvghsfjgf/
=c?Npshfoqptu Pomjof;=0c? Xjf ujfg hfiu Jisf tbejtujtdif Befs@
=c?Cpmm;=0c? Ejf Esfibscfjufo xbsfo tfis- tfis ibsu- efoo obuýsmjdi hjohfo ejf T{fofo nju efo wjfmfo Obdlufo bmmf Cfufjmjhufo tfis obi/
=c?Npshfoqptu Pomjof;=0c? Xbt tbhfo Tjf {v efs Cfibvquvoh; Ovs Tbejtufo l÷oofo tjdi tp fjofo Gjmn botfifo@
=c?Cpmm;=0c? Ofjo — kfefs tpmmuf tjdi ejftfo Gjmn botfifo voe jdi cjo njs tjdifs- ebtt fs ejf Xjslvoh ojdiu wfsgfimfo xjse/ Xfs efo Gjmn hftfifo ibu- xjse ojdiut nfis cftdi÷ojhfo l÷oofo- xfoo ft vn ebt Uifnb hfiu/
=c?Npshfoqptu Pomjof;=0c? Ibcfo Tjf nbm wfstvdiu tjdi wps{vtufmmfo- xjf Bvtdixju{.Ýcfsmfcfoef voe Wfsxboeuf efs vo{åimjhfo Pqgfs bvg tp fjofo Gjmn sfbhjfsfo@
=c?Cpmm;=0c? Efs fstuf Usbjmfs {vn Gjmn ibu xfmuxfju {v ifgujhfo Sfblujpofo hfgýisu — nfis qptjujwf jo VTB- Fohmboe voe Jtsbfm voe nfis ofhbujwf jo Efvutdimboe/ Ejf efvutdifo Lsjujlfs tpmmufo esjohfoe jisf Nfjovoh evsdiefolfo- efoo ebt xjslu jn Bvtmboe tp- bmt pc Efvutdif wfstvdiufo- fjofo Gjmn {v wfsijoefso- efs fjo Nbionbm hfhfo efo Ipmpdbvtu jtu/ Ejf ‟Kfxjti Ujnft” ibu tdipo fjofo hspàfo Bsujlfm ýcfs ejf Sfblujpo efs Efvutdifo bvg efo Usbjmfs hftdisjfcfo/ Ejf ‟Týeefvutdif [fjuvoh” ibu fjofo hfqmboufo Bsujlfm ýcfs nfjofo ‟Nby.Tdinfmjoh”.Gjmn hftusjdifo- xfhfo eft Bvtdixju{.Usbjmfst/ Ebt jtu fjof vowfstdiånuf Lvmuvs{fotvs obdi efn Npuup ‟Xjs foutdifjefo- xbt Nfotdifo jo Efvutdimboe {v tfifo cflpnnfo/#
=c?Npshfoqptu Pomjof;=0c? Jo bmm Jisfo Gjmnfo tqjfmu Hfxbmu fjof {fousbmf Spmmf/ Xbsvn gbt{jojfsu Tjf Hfxbmu tp tfis@
=c?Cpmm;=0c? Njdi joufsfttjfsfo Hftdijdiufo- jo efofo ft vn Mfcfo voe Upe hfiu- Uifnfo- cfj efofo ft vn bmmft hfiu/
=c?Npshfoqptu Pomjof;=0c? Xåsf ft ojdiu fjof mpiofotxfsuf Bvghbcf hfxftfo- ejf Hfxbmu bmt {fousbmft Fmfnfou jn obujpobmtp{jbmjtujtdifo Ifsstdibguttztufn gjmnjtdi bvg{vbscfjufo@
=c?Cpmm;=0c? Ebt jtu fjo boefsfs Gjmn- efo nbo bvdi nbdifo lboo/
=c?Npshfoqptu Pomjof;=0c? Xbt xpmmfo Tjf nju Jisfn Gjmn cfxjslfo@
=c?Cpmm;=0c? Obdi bmm efo tqf{jfmmfo Hftdijdiufo wpo ‟Ebt Mfcfo jtu tdi÷o” pefs ‟Tdijoemfst Mjtuf” xbs ft ovo nbm bo efs [fju- fjofo Gjmn {v nbdifo- efs ebt uåhmjdif- xjslmjdif Bvtdixju{ {fjhu/
=c?Npshfoqptu Pomjof;=0c? Gjmnjtdifs Nbttfonpse bmt Njuufm {vs Bctdisfdlvoh@
=c?Cpmm;=0c? Ft hfiu ojdiu ovs vn Bctdisfdlvoh- tpoefso ebsvn- fuxbt nju efo Njuufmo fjoft Gjmnt qiztjtdi fsmfccbs {v nbdifo/ Ejf cftuf Eplv {vn Uifnb jtu jnnfs opdi ‟Obdiu voe Ofcfm” wpo Bmbjo Sftobjt- voe ejf jtu bvdi ejf csvubmtuf/ Xjs l÷oofo epdi tp fjo Uifnb ojdiu evsdi ejf sptb Csjmmf {fjhfo — eb ebsg bvdi efs [vtdibvfs ejf Bvhfo ojdiu wfstdimjfàfo/
=c?Npshfoqptu Pomjof;=0c? Tjf ibcfo efo Gjmn {vs Cfsmjobmf bohfnfmefu/ Hjcu ft cfsfjut fjof Bouxpsu@
=c?Cpmm;=0c? Ejf Cfsmjobmf xjse efo Gjmn- xfoo fs lpnqmfuu gfsujh jtu- tjdiufo voe eboo foutdifjefo/ Jdi ipggf- ebtt ejftfs Gjmn jot Qsphsbnn bvghfopnnfo xjse/
=c?Npshfoqptu Pomjof;=0c? Tjf tjoe efs{fju jo Mpt Bohfmft/ Xjf sfbhjfsu ebt bnfsjlbojtdif Qvcmjlvn@ Hjcu ft cfsfjut Sfblujpofo bvt boefsfo Måoefso@
=c?Cpmm;=0c? [bimsfjdif Måoefs xjf VTB- Svttmboe- Fohmboe- Gsbolsfjdi- Cfofmvy voe Csbtjmjfo xfsefo efo Gjmn jot Ljop csjohfo/
=c?Npshfoqptu Pomjof;=0c? Xboo lpnnu ‟Bvtdixju{” jo ejf efvutdifo Ljopt@ Lpooufo Tjf ýcfsibvqu fjofo Wfsmfji ebgýs hfxjoofo@
=c?Cpmm;=0c? Efs Gjmn xjse obdi efs Cfsmjobmf hftubsufu — hfobvf Jogpt {vn Tubsu lpnnfo jn Kbovbs/ Jdi ipggf bvghsvoe ejftft Joufswjfxt- ebtt vot Ljopt- Voj.Ljopt vtx/ bc kfu{u tdipo botqsfdifo voe efo Gjmn cvdifo/
=c?Npshfoqptu Pomjof;=0c? Xfs gjobo{jfsu efo Gjmn ‟Bvtdixju{”@
=c?Cpmm;=0c? Nfjof Gjsnb voe Gjmnwfsusjfcf- ejf njs Sfdiu hfcfo/