Jonathan Franzen

"Deutschland ist immer für einen Anfang gut"

| Lesedauer: 18 Minuten

Morgenpost Online sprach mit US-Schriftsteller Jonathan Franzen über seinen Roman "Freiheit" und Deutschlands Vorzüge als Inspirationsquelle.

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