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Stadtschloss: Der Stiftungschef zieht Zwischenbilanz

| Lesedauer: 10 Minuten
Isabell Jürgens; Gabriela Walde
Johannes Wien / Vorstand Humboldt Forum

Johannes Wien / Vorstand Humboldt Forum

Foto: Reto Klar

Stiftungschef Johannes Wien spricht im Interview über den Endspurt beim Berliner Stadtschloss und Ärger wegen der neuen U-Bahn U5.

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