Technologiestiftung

Wie verwundbar ist Berlin für Hacker-Angriffe?

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Dominik Bath
Nicolas Zimmer ist seit 2013 Vorstandsvorsitzender der Technologiestiftung Berlin. 

Nicolas Zimmer ist seit 2013 Vorstandsvorsitzender der Technologiestiftung Berlin. 

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Nicolas Zimmer, Chef der Technologiestiftung, über IT-Sicherheit der Berliner Infrastruktur, smarte Städte und Künstliche Intelligenz.

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