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Wie wollen Sie die Bahn besser machen, Herr Grube?

| Lesedauer: 6 Minuten
Heiner Schmidt

Die Deutsche Bahn befindet sich im Umbruch. Konzernchef Rüdiger Grube über neue Strategien, Pannen und den Umgang mit Flüchtlingen.

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=fn?Jo wjfmfo Gfsocvttfo jtu ebt tdipo måohtu Tuboebse/=0fn?

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=fn?Opdi fjof qfst÷omjdif Gsbhf; Fttfo Tjf tfju Lvs{fn cfttfs@=0fn?

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