Ex-SAP-Managerin

"Frauen hängen weniger an Positionen als Männer"

| Lesedauer: 13 Minuten
Ileana Grabitz

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Der Abschied von SAP war schmerzhaft für Topmanagerin Dammann, aber nötig. Sie wünscht sich mehr Frauen in Chefetagen und einen neuen Führungsstil.

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