Telekom-Personalchef

"Wir wollen keine gefönten Bubis und Barbiepuppen"

Bis 2015 will die Telekom den Anteil weiblicher Führungskräfte auf 30 Prozent erhöhen. Der Personalchef sagt Morgenpost Online wie weit er ist.

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Vor ein paar Jahren hätte es Thomas Sattelberger sich vermutlich nicht träumen lassen, dass er dereinst als einer der Frauenförderer der Nation gehandelt würde. Bei dem Thema sei er früher ein Hardliner gewesen, räumt der 61-Jährige ein – nach dem Motto: Wer gut ist, wird’s schaffen, wer nicht, der eben nicht.

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