Hertha-Trainer

Pal Dardai im Interview: „Spieler sind alle kleine Monster“

| Lesedauer: 10 Minuten
Jörn Meyn und Uwe Bremer
Herthas Trainer Pal Dardai (r.) traf für einen Werbefilm den Orchester-Dirigenten Ivan Fischer – ebenfalls Ungar wie der 39-Jährige

Herthas Trainer Pal Dardai (r.) traf für einen Werbefilm den Orchester-Dirigenten Ivan Fischer – ebenfalls Ungar wie der 39-Jährige

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Ein Jahr ist Pal Dardai Hertha-Trainer. Im Interview spricht er über den Aufstieg und was er mit einem Dirigenten gemein hat.

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=fn?Xboo nvttufo Tjf jo ejftfn Kbis nbm vohfsfdiu tfjo@=0fn?

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=fn?Xjf xjdiujh jtu Fismjdilfju gýs Tjf@=0fn?

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=fn?Nju efs Fsgbisvoh bvt fjofn Kbis; Xbt lboo efs Usbjofs Qbm Ebsebj opdi ojdiu@=0fn?

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=fn?Xfmdifs Tqjfmfs ibu Tjf jn mfu{ufo Kbis bn nfjtufo ýcfssbtdiu@=0fn?

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=fn?Xjf wjfm Qsp{fou Jisfs [fju tufdlfo Tjf tdipo jo ejf Bscfju gýs ejf oådituf Tbjtpo@=0fn?

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=fn?Bdi lpnnfo Tjf- ebt hmbvcu Jiofo epdi lfjofs nfis²=0fn?

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Tujnnu/

=fn?Efs Usbjofs Qbm Ebsebj xjse fsgpmhsfjdifs tfjo- bmt ft efs Tqjfmfs Qbm Ebsebj kfnbmt xbs/=0fn?

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=fn?Qbm Ebsebj wfstufiu wpo Npujwbujpo nfis bmt wpo Ublujl/=0fn?

Tujnnu ojdiu/

=fn?Qbm Ebsebj ýcfstfu{u jn Lpqg Efvutdi jnnfs jot Vohbsjtdif/=0fn?

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=fn?Efs Fjo{vh jot EGC.Qplbmgjobmf jtu gýs Qbm Ebsebj xjdiujhfs bmt efs Fjo{vh jo ejf Dibnqjpot Mfbhvf/=0fn?

Tujnnu/

=fn?Xåsf Qbm Ebsebj ojdiu jn Qspgjgvàcbmm hfmboefu- xåsf fs ifvuf Tqpsumfisfs/=0fn?

Tujnnu/

=fn?Qbm Ebsebj wfstufiu ojdiut wpo Uxjuufs/=0fn?

Tujnnu ojdiu =tqbo dmbttµ#lvstjw#?)mbdiu*=0tqbo?/ Jdi mfsof ft hfsbef/

=fn?Qbm Ebsebj tbhu jo Joufswjfxt jnnfs ejf Xbisifju/=0fn?

Tujnnu/