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Drummer Martin Grubinger: „Sportler uns um Jahre voraus“

| Lesedauer: 6 Minuten
Christoph Forsthoff
Schlagzeuger Martin Gruber zählt zu den besten Drummern der Welt

Schlagzeuger Martin Gruber zählt zu den besten Drummern der Welt

Foto: dpa Picture-Alliance / Olaf Malzahn / picture alliance / dpa

Er ist der Messi unter den Schlagzeugern – und ein Fan! Martin Grubinger über die besonderen Parallelen zwischen Fußball und Musik.

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„Auch wir Musiker sind ja sozusagen eins mit unserem Instrument“

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„Da haben wir Musiker noch viel Nachholbedarf“

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