Watzke und Zorc

"Bayern kann sich einen Anruf wegen Klopp sparen"

| Lesedauer: 12 Minuten
Oliver Müller

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Klubchef Hans-Joachim Watzke und Manager Michael Zorc erklären im Interview mit Morgenpost Online Borussia Dortmunds Aufstieg in dieser Saison.

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