Clemens Tönnies

"Es ging ein Riss durch die Schalker Familie"

| Lesedauer: 11 Minuten
Gunnar Meinhardt

Foto: dpa/DPA

Schalke-Boss Clemens Tönnies spricht im Interview mit Morgenpost Online über Kult, Identifikation und die Gründe für die Trennung von Trainer Felix Magath.

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