Berliner Spaziergang

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Jan Draeger

Berliner Spaziergang: Die Sonntagsserie in der Berliner Morgenpost. Unsere Reporter treffen Menschen, die etwas bewegen. Treffpunkt ist ihre Lieblingsecke. Heute: ein Spaziergang mit Ulrich Deppendorf, Leiter des ARD-Hauptstadtstudios

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