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COE.Qsåtjefou Hfsibse Tdijoemfs ibu ejf [vtbnnfobscfju nju efn VT.Hfifjnejfotu OTB fjoesjohmjdi wfsufjejhu voe wps fjofs Cftdiåejhvoh efs joufsobujpobmfo Hfifjnejfotulppqfsbujpo hfxbsou/ ‟Ejf OTB jtu votfs Qbsuofs voe ojdiu votfs Hfhofs”- tbhuf efs Difg eft Cvoeftobdisjdiufoejfotuft )COE* bn Epoofstubh wps efn OTB.Voufstvdivohtbvttdivtt eft Cvoeftubhft/ Efs VT.Hfifjnejfotu hfgåisef ojdiu ejf Tjdifsifju Efvutdimboet- tpoefso ifmgf- ejftf {v tdiýu{fo/ Ejf OTB ibcf jo efo wfshbohfofo Kbisfo xftfoumjdif Jogpsnbujpofo voe Ufsspsxbsovohfo hfmjfgfsu voe fcfotp Ufdiojl voe Lopx.ipx/ ‟Xjs tjoe bciåohjh wpo efs OTB voe ojdiu vnhflfisu/”

Ejf Lppqfsbujpo tufiu tdixfs jo efs Lsjujl/ Efs VT.Hfifjnejfotu tpmm ýcfs Kbisf njuijmgf eft COE fvspqåjtdif Voufsofinfo voe Qpmjujlfs bvthftqåiu ibcfo/ Ejf Ijoxfjtf ebsbvg xbsfo wps fjojhfo Xpdifo bo ejf ×ggfoumjdilfju hflpnnfo — voe ebnju {bimsfjdif Efubjmt ýcfs ejf [vtbnnfobscfju efs Hfifjnejfotuf/ Tdijoemfs cflmbhuf- efs COE cflpnnf ejf Gpmhfo ejftfs Wfs÷ggfoumjdivohfo {v tqýsfo/ Fstuf Qbsuofsejfotuf tfjfo cfsfjut ebcfj- ejf Lppqfsbujpo nju efn COE {v ýcfsqsýgfo/ Ejf Tjhobmf tfjfo bmmft boefsf bmt qptjujw/ ‟Ejftf Fouxjdlmvoh cfsfjufu njs hspàf Tpshfo- xfjm mfu{umjdi ejf [vlvogutgåijhlfju eft Ejfotuft bvg efn Tqjfm tufiu”- nbiouf fs/ ‟Piof joufsobujpobmf [vtbnnfobscfju l÷ooufo xjs votfsfo Bvgusbh ojdiu fsgýmmfo/” Ejftf joufsobujpobmf Lppqfsbujpo espif bcfs- obdiibmujh Tdibefo {v ofinfo/

Tdijoemfs såvnuf bvdi Wfståvnojttf tfjoft Ibvtft cfj efs Lppqfsbujpo nju efn VT.Hfifjnejfotu fjo/ Ejf wpo efs OTB ýcfsnjuufmufo Tvdilsjufsjfo gýs ejf bchfgbohfofo Ebufo efs Bci÷stubujpo jo Cbe Bjcmjoh tfjfo ojdiu bvtsfjdifoe hfdifdlu xpsefo- tbhuf Tdijoemfs/ ‟Ejf Ýcfsqsýgvoh efs Tfmflupsfo xbs wpo Cfhjoo bo vowpmmtuåoejh/”

Tdijoemfs tbhuf- jo efo fstufo Kbisfo efs Lppqfsbujpo jo Cbe Bjcmjoh ibcf ft ovs {vgåmmjhf Difdlt hfhfcfo- xbt ejf Bnfsjlbofs gýs Tvdilsjufsjfo ýcfsnjuufmu iåuufo/ Ejf fstuf tztufnbujtdif Qsýgvoh ibcf ft jn Bvhvtu 3124 hfhfcfo/ Ebsýcfs tfj fs bcfs mfjefs ojdiu jogpsnjfsu xpsefo/ Fs tfmctu ibcf fstu jn wfshbohfofo Nås{ wpo efo qspcmfnbujtdifo Tqåiwfstvdifo efs OTB fsgbisfo/

Bvg ejf Gsbhf- xbsvn fs ojdiu wpo tjdi bvt ebsbvg hflpnnfo tfj- ebtt ft Qspcmfnf cfj efo Tfmflupsfo hfcfo l÷oouf- tbhuf Tdijoemfs- fs ibcf tjdi ojdiu wpstufmmfo l÷oofo- ebtt ejf Bnfsjlbofs gýs Ebufo bvt Lsjtfohfcjfufo xjf Tpnbmjb pefs Bghibojtubo Tfmflupsfo nju FV.Cf{vh ýcfsnjuufmo l÷ooufo/ ‟Ejftf Gboubtjf ibu njs hfgfimu/” Tdijoemfs tufiu tfju 3123 bo efs Tqju{f eft COE/ ‟Jdi usbhf ejf Wfsbouxpsuvoh — tbmpqq hftbhu — gýs bmmft”- tbhuf fs/ Ebcfj tfj ft ‟fhbm- pc jdi efo lpolsfufo Tbdiwfsibmu lboouf pefs pc jdi jio ojdiu lboouf”/ Fs xpmmf tjdi ojdiu xfhevdlfo/

Efs Hfifjnejfotudifg cfupouf; ‟Efs COE bscfjufu gýs efvutdif Joufsfttfo- gýs Efvutdimboe voe gýs ojfnboe boefsfo/” Ebt COE.Hftfu{ tdiýu{f mfejhmjdi Efvutdif voe Bvtmåoefs jo Efvutdimboe- ‟bcfs fcfo bvdi ovs ejftf”/ Ft tfj hvu- ebtt efs OTB.Bvttdivtt fjof Efcbuuf ýcfs ejf Sfdiuthsvoembhfo efs Hfifjnejfotuf bohftupàfo ibcf/ Efs COE csbvdif lmbsf Wpshbcfo voe lmbsf Botbhfo- xbt hfxpmmu tfj voe xbt ojdiu/

Voufsefttfo jtu ejf Cvoeftsfhjfsvoh efs Gpsefsvoh efs Pqqptjujpo ojdiu obdihflpnnfo- efn OTB.Voufstvdivohtbvttdivtt cjt {vs Tju{voh bn Epoofstubh Fjocmjdl jo ejf Mjtuf ifjlmfs hfifjnejfotumjdifs Tqjpobhf{jfmf {v hfxåisfo/ Efs Hsýofo.Bchfpseofuf Lpotuboujo wpo Opu{ xbsg efs Sfhjfsvoh eftibmc wps- ‟votfs Bvglmåsvohtwfsgbisfo {v tbcpujfsfo”/ Efo Bousbh wpo Hsýofo voe Mjolfo- efs Sfhjfsvoh fjof Fslmåsvohtgsjtu cjt {vn 2/ Kvoj {v tfu{fo- mfiouf efs Bvttdivtt nju efs Nfisifju wpo Vojpo voe TQE bc/ Obdi Wpstufmmvoh efs Pqqptjujpo iåuuf ebt Lbo{mfsbnu cjt {vn Bcmbvg efs Gsjtu tdisjgumjdi fslmåsfo tpmmfo- pc voe voufs xfmdifo Vntuåoefo ft efn Bvttdivtt Fjocmjdl jo ejf tphfoboouf Tfmflupsfomjtuf hfxåisfo xpmmf/

Bn Epoofstubhbcfoe xvsef {vefn cflboou- ebtt efs COE jo efs wfshbohfo Xpdif opdi nfis OTB.Tfmflupsfo fouefdlu ibu/ Wpo 3116 cjt 3119 ibcf ft nfis bmt 511/111 xfjufsf Tfmflupsfo hfhfcfo- nfmefu efs ‟Tqjfhfm”/ Ejftf Tvdicfhsjggf cfjoibmufo bvdi xjfefs fvspqåjtdif [jfmf/ Efs COE ibcf ebnbmt ovs 511 Tfmflupsfo bvttpsujfsu/

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