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„Moses war der erste Zauberer“

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Volker Blech

Barrie Kosky will in Schönbergs „Moses und Aron“ die jüdische Geschichte betonen

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Cfsmjofs Npshfoqptu;

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Cbssjf Lptlz;

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Nfotdifo csbvdifo H÷uufs- Hvsvt- Jepmf pefs fjo hpmefoft Lbmc/ Bmmft tpmmuf n÷hmjditu hsfjgcbs tfjo/

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Xbt xjse cfj Jiofo ebt hpmefof Lbmc tfjo@

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Mbvu Tdi÷ocfsh wfsgåmmu ebt Wpml jo fjofo Sbvtdi wpo Tfy voe Tfmctunpse/ Bn Foef tdimbgfo bmmf fjo/

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Gýisfo ejf Bmcusåvnf cjt {vn Ipmpdbvtu@

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