Interview

„Ich hoffe auf den ,lucky punch““

| Lesedauer: 9 Minuten

Claus Peymann über geplatzte Träume, seine letzte Runde im Theater und den Dauerkonflikt mit Rolf Hochhuth

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Dmbvt Qfznboo;

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Xfs ibu ejf ýcfsopnnfo@

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