Interview

"Theater ist niemals der Text"

| Lesedauer: 7 Minuten

Er wird als Erneuerer des politischen Theaters gefeiert: René Pollesch, 1962 geboren, inszeniert regelmäßig an der Volksbühne - und an anderen großen Theatern. Heute Abend hat "Kill your Darlings! Streets of Berladelphia" Premiere. Pinar Abut und Stefan Kirschner trafen den Regisseur und Dramatiker, der ausschließlich eigene Texte inszeniert, im Foyer der Volksbühne.

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