Interview: Moritz Baumgarten

"Auf Buhrufe bin ich eingestellt"

| Lesedauer: 6 Minuten

Mit seiner "Tannhäuser"-Inszenierung werden heute die 100. Richard-Wagner-Festspiele in Bayreuth eröffnet: Sebastian Baumgarten, 42, ist ein Regisseur, der das Dialektische liebt und alles andere als schlichter Provokateur ist.

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