Interview mit Klaus Staeck

Faxen, bis der Freund kommt

| Lesedauer: 7 Minuten

Er steht im Künstlerolymp auf einer Stufe mit Gerhard Richter und galt als deutsche Antwort auf die Pop-Art: der Maler, Objektkünstler und scharfsinnige Ironiker Sigmar Polke. Im vergangenen Juni starb er mit 69 Jahren an Krebs. Jetzt lässt Klaus Staeck, Präsident der Akademie und Polkes langjähriger Künstlerfreund und Verleger, in einer von ihm kuratierten Ausstellung das Universum des Künstlers Revue passieren.

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