Manfred Weber: Demokratie hat durch Macron schweren Schaden genommen

Interview

Manfred Webers Abrechnung mit Präsident Emmanuel Macron

Aktualisiert: 23.12.2019, 06:53 | Lesedauer: 11 Minuten

Jochen Gaugele und Christian Kerl

Manfred Weber (CSU), Fraktionsvorsitzender der Europäische Volkspartei, spricht sich für einen Sonderbotschafter der EU für Klimafragen aus.

**Foto:** dpa Picture-Alliance /Jean-Francois Badias

Manfred Weber (CSU) wollte Präsident der EU-Kommission werden, durfte aber nicht. Nun übt er harsche Kritik am Vorgehen. Und an Macron.

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