Berliner Schloss

„Neil MacGregor kennt Deutschland, vor allem aber Berlin“

| Lesedauer: 7 Minuten
Gabriela Walde

Foto: Reto Klar

Kunsthistoriker Horst Bredekamp über den neuen Intendanten für das Humboldt-Forum. Er kennt den Museumsmann aus London schon lange. Ein Treffen in der Humboldt-Box am Schloss.

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