Kultur

Grütters setzt beim Gemälde-Umzug weiter auf den Masterplan

| Lesedauer: 10 Minuten
Christine Richter und Stefan Kirschner

Foto: Krauthoefer / Krauthöfer

Für Kulturstaatsministerin Monika Grütters gehören die Alten Meister auf die Museumsinsel. Im Morgenpost-Interview spricht sie über den geplanten Umzug, ihr neues Amt und das Humboldt-Forum.

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