Staatsoper

„Das war eine Extremerfahrung als Einspringer“

| Lesedauer: 6 Minuten
Volker Blech
Dirigent Thomas Guggeis an der Staatsoper.

Dirigent Thomas Guggeis an der Staatsoper.

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Thomas Guggeis dirigiert die „Jenufa“-Premiere an der Staatsoper und erklärt ein Problem seiner Generation.

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