Frank Castorf

"Bayreuth ist für mich eine Grenzüberschreitung"

| Lesedauer: 8 Minuten
Volker Blech, Stefan Kirschner

Foto: Amin Akhtar

Frank Castorf inszeniert Bayreuths Jubiläums-"Ring" als Parabel auf Öl-Rausch und Globalisierung. Ein Gespräch über Drehbühnen und Kleingedrucktes im Vertrag.

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