Interview

„Die Entwicklung droht unseren Bezirk zu zerreißen“

Friedrichshain-Kreuzbergs Sozialstadtrat Knut Mildner-Spindler (Linke) im Interview über Drogen, Migrantenkinder und Florian Schmidt.

Sozialstadtrat und Vize-Bezirksbürgermeister Knut Mildner-Spindler (Linke)

Sozialstadtrat und Vize-Bezirksbürgermeister Knut Mildner-Spindler (Linke)

Foto: Patrick Goldstein

Knut Mildner-Spindler ist Stadtrat für Soziales, Arbeit, Gesundheit und Bürgerdienste. Im Interview mit der Berliner Morgenpost spricht der 62 Jahre alte Linken-Politiker über Strategien, um der Drogensituation Herr zu werden, von der wachsenden Kluft zwischen Wohlstand und Armut im Bezirk sowie über seine Einschätzung der Affäre um seinen Stadtratskollegen Florian Schmidt (Grüne).

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‧ efs Cbioipg jtu Lsfv{cfsh- bo efs Ibvtlbouf gåohu Ofvl÷mmo bo ///

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Biografisches

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