Berliner Wirtschaft

„Wir brauchen weniger Verbote und mehr Anreize“

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Christine Richter
Seit neun Monaten im Amt: VBKI-Geschäftsführerin Claudia Grosse-Leege im IHK-Haus.

Seit neun Monaten im Amt: VBKI-Geschäftsführerin Claudia Grosse-Leege im IHK-Haus.

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Claudia Große-Leege ist erste Geschäftsführerin des VBKI in Berlin. Ein Gespräch über Frauenförderung, Visionen und mutige Lösungen.

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