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Corona-Proteste: Senator Geisel warnt vor Radikalisierung

| Lesedauer: 12 Minuten
Alexander Dinger und Christine Richter
Berlins Innensenator Andreas Geisel (SPD) betont im Hinblick auf die Rigaer Straße, dass Staat und Polizei rechtsstaatlich handeln müssen.

Berlins Innensenator Andreas Geisel (SPD) betont im Hinblick auf die Rigaer Straße, dass Staat und Polizei rechtsstaatlich handeln müssen.

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Innensenator Andreas Geisel (SPD) über Herausforderungen in Zeiten des Lockdowns und den Linksextremismus im Umfeld der Rigaer Straße.

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