Sonntagsspaziergang

Gerhard Holtmeier ist Berlins Experte für Energie

Unsere Reporter treffen Menschen, die etwas bewegen. Heute: ein Spaziergang mit Gerhard Holtmeier, Chef des Energieversorgers Gasag.

Gerhard Holtmeier

Gerhard Holtmeier

Foto: Maurizio Gambarini

Berlin.  Ein zweiter Termin muss her. Wir haben uns an dem wohl einzigen Tag in diesem Sommer, an dem es morgens schon in Strömen regnet – besser gesagt schüttet – und die Feuerwehr den Ausnahmezustand für Berlin ausruft, zu einem Spaziergang verabredet. Die Tage davor strahlte die Sonne vom Himmel, für die Woche danach zeigt die Wetter-App auch wieder schönstes Sommerwetter an. Was tun? Der Terminkalender von Gerhard Holtmeier, dem neuen Gasag-Chef in Berlin, ist gut gefüllt, ist er doch erst seit 1. April im Amt. Der 55-Jährige findet trotzdem eine Lücke – und so kommt es, wie es in diesem Sommer sein soll: Bei bestem Sonnenwetter treffen wir uns am Ostbahnhof in Friedrichshain, denn unser Weg soll uns an der East Side Gallery entlang zur Mercedes-Benz-Arena führen. Auf geht’s.

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Nach einem halben Jahr eine Wohnung gefunden

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Durch Zufall ist er ins Gasgeschäft gekommen

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Großer Stolz auf das Blockheizkraftwerk

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