Die Innensenatoren von Hamburg und Berlin im Interview

"Polizisten werden mit höherer Brutalität angegriffen"

Gewalt von links ist nicht nur in Berlin ein Thema. Auch in Hamburg brennen Autos, werden Polizeiwachen angegriffen. Im Interview mit Morgenpost Online erklären die Innensenatoren der beiden Stadtstaaten, Christoph Ahlhaus (CDU) aus Hamburg und Ehrhart Körting (SPD) aus Berlin, wie sie gemeinsam gegen gewalttätige Linksextremisten vorgehen wollen.

Foto: Amin Akhtar

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