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"Nata Lisboa": Ein Hauch von Portugal - mitten in Berlin

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Max Müller
Seit zwei Jahren verkaufen Sandra Nicolau und Carlo Monteiro in ihrem Wilmersdorfer Café portugiesisches Gebäck.

Seit zwei Jahren verkaufen Sandra Nicolau und Carlo Monteiro in ihrem Wilmersdorfer Café portugiesisches Gebäck.

Foto: Max Müller

Im „Nata Lisboa“, einem portugiesischen Café am Rande des Olivaer Platzes, sind Pastéis de Nata der Verkaufsschlager. Ein Besuch.

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